diff --git a/crates/engine/src/cmd/distortcmds.rs b/crates/engine/src/cmd/distortcmds.rs
index 9639d0225..669c15d43 100644
--- a/crates/engine/src/cmd/distortcmds.rs
+++ b/crates/engine/src/cmd/distortcmds.rs
@@ -960,7 +960,7 @@ fn persp_edit(
         return Err(EngineError::Other("select the objects to transform in perspective".into()));
     }
     let mut g = grid_of(&s.doc()?.doc);
-    let kept = if copy && !stores_attachments(&s.doc()?.doc) { super::object::preview_copies(s, ids)? } else { None };
+    let kept = if copy && !stores_attachments(&s.doc()?.doc) { super::object::preview_copies(s, ids, false)? } else { None };
     s.edit(label, |d, sel| {
         g.adopt_stored_attachments(d);
         let targets = match &kept {
@@ -1164,7 +1164,7 @@ fn plane_move(s: &mut Session, p: &Value) -> Result<Value> {
     // lists attachments of its own (`stores_attachments`).
     let kept = if objects == "copy" && s.in_interaction() && !stores_attachments(&s.doc()?.doc) {
         let on = on_plane(&s.doc()?.doc);
-        super::object::preview_copies(s, &on)?
+        super::object::preview_copies(s, &on, false)?
     } else {
         None
     };
diff --git a/crates/engine/src/cmd/docmenu.rs b/crates/engine/src/cmd/docmenu.rs
index 174fc5b0d..70240db1e 100644
--- a/crates/engine/src/cmd/docmenu.rs
+++ b/crates/engine/src/cmd/docmenu.rs
@@ -659,6 +659,17 @@ pub(crate) fn guide_move(s: &mut Session, p: &Value) -> Result<Value> {
         return Err(bad("guide.move", "no guide selected (or give an index)"));
     }
     let (dx, dy, copy) = (f64_or(p, "dx", 0.0), f64_or(p, "dy", 0.0), bool_or(p, "copy", false));
+    if !s.doc()?.selection.is_empty() {
+        let ids = super::edit::selected_roots(s)?;
+        return super::object::apply_transform(
+            s,
+            if copy { "Copy Guide" } else { "Move Guide" },
+            ids,
+            vectorcraft_geom::Affine::translate((dx, dy)),
+            p,
+            true,
+        );
+    }
     s.edit(if copy { "Copy Guide" } else { "Move Guide" }, |d, sel| {
         let mut copies = vec![];
         for &i in &moving {
diff --git a/crates/engine/src/cmd/object.rs b/crates/engine/src/cmd/object.rs
index a41287441..8a6db151c 100644
--- a/crates/engine/src/cmd/object.rs
+++ b/crates/engine/src/cmd/object.rs
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ pub fn specs() -> Vec<CommandSpec> {
             ["Object", "Transform"],
             Some("Cmd+Shift+M"),
             "{dx, dy, copy?, objects?: bool (Transform Objects, default true; false: the art stays and, with patterns, only its pattern tiles transform), patterns?: bool (Transform Patterns: pattern fills and strokes transform with the art; default: prefs transformPatternTiles), typeAreas?: bool (area type: the frame is reshaped and the text reflows at its size)}. With anchors selected with Direct Selection (and no copy), only those anchors and their handles transform, about the centre of their own box.",
-            has_selection,
+            has_selection_or_guides,
             move_cmd
         ),
         cmd!(
@@ -297,11 +297,16 @@ pub(crate) fn apply_transform(s: &mut Session, label: &str, ids: Vec<NodeId>, xf
     let objects = transforms_objects(p);
     let mut sc = if Scaling::factor(xf).is_some() { scaling(s, p) } else { Scaling::default() };
     sc.patterns = transform_patterns(s, p, &ids)?;
+    let c = xf.as_coeffs();
+    let is_translation = (c[0] - 1.0).abs() < 1e-9 && c[1].abs() < 1e-9 && c[2].abs() < 1e-9 && (c[3] - 1.0).abs() < 1e-9;
+    let delta = Vec2::new(c[4], c[5]);
+    let with_guides = objects && ids_param(p, "ids").is_none() && is_translation;
+    let has_guides = with_guides && !s.doc()?.selection.guides.is_empty();
     // A transform of ids that name no object, or an identity transform without a copy, moves
     // nothing: the document and its undo history stay as they are, and Transform Again repeats it.
     // With a copy, the reply lists the copies, and there are none.
     let d = &s.doc()?.doc;
-    let none = d.index_paths(ids.iter().copied()).is_empty();
+    let none = d.index_paths(ids.iter().copied()).is_empty() && !has_guides;
     let ids = if anchors && objects && !copy && !s.doc()?.selection.anchors.is_empty() {
         if xf != Affine::IDENTITY {
             super::path::transform_anchors(s, label, xf, sc)?;
@@ -310,7 +315,7 @@ pub(crate) fn apply_transform(s: &mut Session, label: &str, ids: Vec<NodeId>, xf
     } else if none || (!copy && xf == Affine::IDENTITY) {
         if copy { vec![] } else { ids }
     } else {
-        let kept = if copy { preview_copies(s, &ids)? } else { None };
+        let kept = if copy { preview_copies(s, &ids, with_guides)? } else { None };
         s.edit(label, |d, sel| {
             let targets = match &kept {
                 // The document becomes the snapshot with the kept copies, untransformed, and the
@@ -320,7 +325,21 @@ pub(crate) fn apply_transform(s: &mut Session, label: &str, ids: Vec<NodeId>, xf
                     sel.clone_from(&k.selection);
                     k.ids.clone()
                 }
-                None if copy => duplicate_in(d, sel, &ids, Affine::IDENTITY)?,
+                None if copy => {
+                    let guide_copies = if with_guides {
+                        let copies: Vec<_> = sel.guides.iter().filter_map(|&i| d.guides.get(i).cloned()).collect();
+                        (!copies.is_empty()).then_some(copies)
+                    } else {
+                        None
+                    };
+                    let new_ids = duplicate_in(d, sel, &ids, Affine::IDENTITY)?;
+                    if let Some(copies) = guide_copies {
+                        let first = d.guides.len();
+                        d.guides.extend(copies);
+                        sel.guides = (first..d.guides.len()).collect();
+                    }
+                    new_ids
+                }
                 None => ids.clone(),
             };
             // Transforms don't move nodes in the tree, so the paths found up front stay right.
@@ -332,6 +351,13 @@ pub(crate) fn apply_transform(s: &mut Session, label: &str, ids: Vec<NodeId>, xf
                     transform_node(n, xf, sc, objects);
                 }
             }
+            if with_guides && (delta.x != 0.0 || delta.y != 0.0) {
+                for i in sel.guides.clone() {
+                    if let Some(g) = d.guides.get_mut(i) {
+                        *g = g.moved(delta);
+                    }
+                }
+            }
             Ok(targets)
         })?
     };
@@ -355,21 +381,30 @@ pub(crate) fn apply_transform(s: &mut Session, label: &str, ids: Vec<NodeId>, xf
 /// untransformed, and the interaction keeps that clone. It returns `None` outside an interaction,
 /// and when the document is no longer the snapshot, as for a command run in a typing session or a
 /// script batch after an earlier edit there: the command then copies the current document.
-pub(crate) fn preview_copies(s: &mut Session, roots: &[NodeId]) -> Result<Option<Arc<crate::PreviewCopies>>> {
+pub(crate) fn preview_copies(s: &mut Session, roots: &[NodeId], with_guides: bool) -> Result<Option<Arc<crate::PreviewCopies>>> {
     let st = s.doc_mut()?;
     let Some(it) = &mut st.interaction else { return Ok(None) };
     if !Arc::ptr_eq(&st.doc, &it.doc) {
         return Ok(None);
     }
+    let has_guide_copies = with_guides && !st.selection.guides.is_empty();
     if let Some(k) = &it.copies
         && Arc::ptr_eq(&k.from, &it.doc)
         && k.roots == roots
+        && (!k.selection.guides.is_empty() == has_guide_copies)
     {
         return Ok(Some(k.clone()));
     }
     let mut doc = it.doc.clone();
     let mut selection = st.selection.clone();
     let ids = duplicate_in(Arc::make_mut(&mut doc), &mut selection, roots, Affine::IDENTITY)?;
+    if has_guide_copies {
+        let d = Arc::make_mut(&mut doc);
+        let first = d.guides.len();
+        let copies: Vec<_> = st.selection.guides.iter().filter_map(|&i| d.guides.get(i).cloned()).collect();
+        d.guides.extend(copies);
+        selection.guides = (first..d.guides.len()).collect();
+    }
     let k = Arc::new(crate::PreviewCopies { from: it.doc.clone(), roots: roots.to_vec(), doc, selection, ids });
     it.copies = Some(k.clone());
     Ok(Some(k))
diff --git a/crates/engine/src/cmd/path.rs b/crates/engine/src/cmd/path.rs
index bf1dcc106..e8de362e1 100644
--- a/crates/engine/src/cmd/path.rs
+++ b/crates/engine/src/cmd/path.rs
@@ -181,6 +181,9 @@ pub(crate) fn move_anchors(s: &mut Session, p: &Value) -> Result<Value> {
 /// objects selected whole (those with no entry in the selection's `anchors`).
 pub(crate) fn transform_anchors(s: &mut Session, label: &str, xf: vectorcraft_geom::Affine, sc: Scaling) -> Result<()> {
     let sel = s.doc()?.selection.clone();
+    let c = xf.as_coeffs();
+    let is_translation = (c[0] - 1.0).abs() < 1e-9 && c[1].abs() < 1e-9 && c[2].abs() < 1e-9 && (c[3] - 1.0).abs() < 1e-9;
+    let delta = vectorcraft_geom::Vec2::new(c[4], c[5]);
     s.edit(label, |doc, _| {
         for id in &sel.objects {
             match sel.anchors.get(id) {
@@ -199,6 +202,13 @@ pub(crate) fn transform_anchors(s: &mut Session, label: &str, xf: vectorcraft_ge
                 }
             }
         }
+        if is_translation && (delta.x != 0.0 || delta.y != 0.0) {
+            for &i in &sel.guides {
+                if let Some(g) = doc.guides.get_mut(i) {
+                    *g = g.moved(delta);
+                }
+            }
+        }
         Ok(())
     })
 }
diff --git a/crates/engine/src/tests_menucmds.rs b/crates/engine/src/tests_menucmds.rs
index e1edfebf5..7855d884f 100644
--- a/crates/engine/src/tests_menucmds.rs
+++ b/crates/engine/src/tests_menucmds.rs
@@ -1579,6 +1579,119 @@ fn guides_and_art_are_shift_selected_together() {
     assert_eq!(guides(&s).len(), 2);
 }
 
+/// When ruler guides and art are selected together, moving the art moves the guides as well;
+/// copy leaves both in place and moves the copies; single undo reverts both.
+#[test]
+fn guides_and_art_move_together_when_selected() {
+    let mut s = session();
+    let a = rect(&mut s, 10.0, 10.0, 40.0, 20.0);
+    s.execute("guide.add", &json!({"vertical": true, "pos": 200})).unwrap();
+    s.execute("guide.add", &json!({"vertical": false, "pos": 300})).unwrap();
+
+    // Select art and both guides.
+    sel(&mut s, &[a]);
+    s.execute("guide.select", &json!({"indexes": [0, 1], "toggle": true})).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((selected(&s), selected_guides(&s)), (vec![a], vec![0, 1]));
+
+    // 1. Moving via object.transform moves both art and guides in one step.
+    let n = undo_len(&s);
+    s.execute("object.transform", &json!({"matrix": [1, 0, 0, 1, 25, 35]})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (35.0, 45.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 225.0), (false, 335.0)]);
+    assert_eq!(undo_len(&s), n + 1);
+
+    // Undo restores both in one step.
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (10.0, 10.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 200.0), (false, 300.0)]);
+
+    // Redo reapplies both.
+    s.execute("edit.redo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (35.0, 45.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 225.0), (false, 335.0)]);
+
+    // Undo back to start.
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+
+    // 2. object.move also moves both.
+    s.execute("object.move", &json!({"dx": 15, "dy": 20})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (25.0, 30.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 215.0), (false, 320.0)]);
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+
+    // 3. Arrow-key nudge moves both.
+    s.execute("object.nudge", &json!({"dx": 1, "dy": 0})).unwrap();
+    let k = s.prefs.keyboard_increment;
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!(b.x0, 10.0 + k);
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s)[0], (true, 200.0 + k));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s)[1], (false, 300.0));
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+
+    // 4. Copy (e.g. Alt-drag) duplicates both art and guides, leaving originals in place.
+    let res = s.execute("object.transform", &json!({"matrix": [1, 0, 0, 1, 50, 60], "copy": true})).unwrap();
+    let copied_id = NodeId(res["ids"][0].as_u64().unwrap());
+    assert_ne!(copied_id, a);
+    let b_orig = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    let b_copy = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[copied_id], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b_orig.x0, b_orig.y0), (10.0, 10.0));
+    assert_eq!((b_copy.x0, b_copy.y0), (60.0, 70.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 200.0), (false, 300.0), (true, 250.0), (false, 360.0)]);
+    assert_eq!((selected(&s), selected_guides(&s)), (vec![copied_id], vec![2, 3]));
+
+    // Undo takes back both copies in one step.
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 200.0), (false, 300.0)]);
+    assert!(s.doc().unwrap().doc.node(copied_id).is_none());
+    assert!(s.doc().unwrap().doc.node(a).is_some());
+
+    // 5. Explicit ids: only the specified art moves, guides stay put.
+    sel(&mut s, &[a]);
+    s.execute("guide.select", &json!({"indexes": [0, 1], "toggle": true})).unwrap();
+    s.execute("object.transform", &json!({"ids": [a.0], "matrix": [1, 0, 0, 1, 40, 50]})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (50.0, 60.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 200.0), (false, 300.0)]);
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+
+    // 6. Interactive preview copies: dragging with Alt previews the copies and commit keeps them.
+    s.begin_interaction("Move").unwrap();
+    s.preview("object.transform", &json!({"matrix": [1, 0, 0, 1, 10, 20], "copy": true})).unwrap();
+    s.preview("object.transform", &json!({"matrix": [1, 0, 0, 1, 30, 40], "copy": true})).unwrap();
+    s.commit_interaction().unwrap();
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s).len(), 4);
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s)[2], (true, 230.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s)[3], (false, 340.0));
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 200.0), (false, 300.0)]);
+
+    // 7. Dragging a guide (guide.move) when art is also selected moves both art and guides.
+    sel(&mut s, &[a]);
+    s.execute("guide.select", &json!({"indexes": [0, 1], "toggle": true})).unwrap();
+    s.execute("guide.move", &json!({"dx": 10, "dy": 20})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (20.0, 30.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 210.0), (false, 320.0)]);
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+    let b = s.doc().unwrap().doc.bounds_of(&[a], false).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!((b.x0, b.y0), (10.0, 10.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s), vec![(true, 200.0), (false, 300.0)]);
+
+    // 8. Copy-dragging a guide (guide.move { copy: true }) when art is also selected duplicates both.
+    s.execute("guide.move", &json!({"dx": 10, "dy": 20, "copy": true})).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s).len(), 4);
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s)[2], (true, 210.0));
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s)[3], (false, 320.0));
+    assert_eq!(s.doc().unwrap().doc.layers[0].children().unwrap().len(), 2);
+    s.execute("edit.undo", &json!({})).unwrap();
+    assert_eq!(guides(&s).len(), 2);
+    assert_eq!(s.doc().unwrap().doc.layers[0].children().unwrap().len(), 1);
+}
+
 /// #451: an artboard guide (`guide.add {artboard}`) runs across its artboard only, and is moved,
 /// copied and deleted with it; canvas guides stay put.
 #[test]