diff --git a/ROADMAP.md b/ROADMAP.md
index 18f03e16..b380dc84 100644
--- a/ROADMAP.md
+++ b/ROADMAP.md
@@ -161,6 +161,7 @@ app's JSON control channel (`deckcraft --control PORT`).
 | 2026-10-16 | Symbol-font characters: a run's U+F0xx symbol code (from `<a:sym typeface="Symbol"/>`) now draws from the installed Symbol face even when it has no private-use mapping — Apple's Symbol on macOS maps the glyphs to real Unicode, so the code is remapped to that character (the Adobe Symbol encoding) instead of falling to a look-alike. Bullets and metafile text take the same remap |
 | 2026-10-15 | Native saves keep an imported chart's embedded workbook, drawings and relationships; headless PPTX → edit → native save/reopen → PPTX tests verify the payloads and stale-workbook rejection |
 | 2026-10-18 | Charts: a series' own data-label setting is honoured — numbers PowerPoint shows on a graph no longer disappear, and a bare `c:showVal` means on (#868) |
+| 2026-10-15 | Render: quick styles render on empty placeholders — the fill gate now checks for style and line overrides too (#832) |
 | 2026-10-15 | PPTX trigger sequences keep separate On Click steps, including paragraph builds; synthetic import/edit/save/reopen and headless show regressions |
 | 2026-10-16 | Export: PNG with a transparent background — the slide background is left out, only the slide's content is drawn (Export… dialog, File › Export, web download, `file.export`/`file.render` `transparentBackground`, `deckcraft-cli render --transparent`) (#784) |
 | 2026-10-16 | Arrange ▸ Align: Align to Slide and Align Selected Objects, as in PowerPoint. One object aligns to the slide and several to each other until the other choice is ticked; the choice holds for that selection and also drives Distribute |
diff --git a/crates/render/src/lib.rs b/crates/render/src/lib.rs
index c47d2b6b..e951cbdd 100644
--- a/crates/render/src/lib.rs
+++ b/crates/render/src/lib.rs
@@ -1152,7 +1152,7 @@ impl Renderer {
             }
             _ => {
                 if let Some(fl) = &fill
-                    && !(empty_ph && f.opts.edit && s.fill.is_none())
+                    && !(empty_ph && f.opts.edit && s.fill.is_none() && s.line.is_none() && s.style.is_none())
                 {
                     for (i, sp) in geo.paths.iter().enumerate() {
                         if sp.fill == FillMode::None || fade(i).fill <= 0.0 {
diff --git a/crates/render/src/tests.rs b/crates/render/src/tests.rs
index 662f6889..4a2c8a5a 100644
--- a/crates/render/src/tests.rs
+++ b/crates/render/src/tests.rs
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ use super::*;
 use deckcraft_model::chart::{ChartType, Trendline, TrendlineType};
 use deckcraft_model::style::ColorRef;
 use deckcraft_model::text::TextBody;
-use deckcraft_model::{Chart, Geom, Presentation, Shape, ShapeId, ShapeKind, ShapeStyle, Table, Xfrm};
+use deckcraft_model::{Chart, Geom, PhType, Placeholder, Presentation, Shape, ShapeId, ShapeKind, ShapeStyle, Table, Xfrm};
 
 fn deck_with(shapes: Vec<Shape>) -> Presentation {
     let mut p = Presentation::default();
@@ -35,6 +35,33 @@ fn shape_fill_uses_theme_accent() {
     assert_eq!(img.pixel(50, 50), [255, 255, 255, 255]);
 }
 
+/// #832: a quick style on an empty placeholder paints its fill. The style reference
+/// (`s.style`) carries the fill, but the empty-placeholder gate skipped the fill whenever the
+/// shape had no local fill, so the quick style only appeared once text was added. A
+/// placeholder with no style at all still shows nothing but its dashed outline.
+#[test]
+fn a_quick_style_fills_an_empty_placeholder() {
+    let placeholder = || Shape {
+        id: ShapeId(910),
+        xfrm: Some(Xfrm::new(100.0, 100.0, 200.0, 100.0)),
+        ph: Some(Placeholder { kind: PhType::Body, idx: 1, ..Default::default() }),
+        ..Default::default()
+    };
+    let p = deck_with(vec![Shape { style: Some(ShapeStyle::accent(deckcraft_color::SchemeSlot::Accent1)), ..placeholder() }]);
+    let img = render_slide(&p, 0, &RenderOpts { scale: 1.0, edit: true, ..Default::default() });
+    let accent = p.masters[0].theme.colors.get(deckcraft_color::SchemeSlot::Accent1);
+    // Lower right of the shape: the prompt text sits at the top of the text rect.
+    let px = img.pixel(280, 185);
+    assert!(
+        (px[0] as i32 - accent.r as i32).abs() <= 2 && (px[1] as i32 - accent.g as i32).abs() <= 2 && (px[2] as i32 - accent.b as i32).abs() <= 2,
+        "the quick style's fill is drawn on the empty placeholder: {px:?} vs {accent:?}"
+    );
+    // An unformatted empty placeholder stays empty: the gate is not simply gone.
+    let p = deck_with(vec![placeholder()]);
+    let img = render_slide(&p, 0, &RenderOpts { scale: 1.0, edit: true, ..Default::default() });
+    assert_eq!(img.pixel(280, 185), [255, 255, 255, 255], "an unformatted placeholder has no fill");
+}
+
 #[test]
 fn render_shapes_draws_the_selection_on_a_transparent_canvas() {
     let sh = Shape {